Episode 28- The World That Opens Up When You Follow Your Passions With Tyler Foley

Today, we discuss the journey of Tyler Foley! Thank you for joining our journey through the arts. Like we always say "Pursuing your Passions is a Bitch... But it's worth it!"

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Transcript

The Rogue Scientist Productions (00:01.228)
Thank you, and welcome to Pursuing Your Passions as a Bitch. I'm your host, Charles Dockham, the owner of the Brogue Scientist Productions, and the author of The World Beyond, an ongoing story on Kindle Vella. With me, I have my guest, Tyler Foley, the author of The Power to Speak Naked. Tyler?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (00:16.322)
How you doin'?

The Rogue Scientist Productions (00:18.518)
I'm doing great Tyler, how are you?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (00:21.494)
I am having a fantastic day. It's always fun when I get to have a conversation and a really good, you know, in-depth dive into the mind of the artist. So I'm looking forward to this one.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (00:33.148)
Yes, and that's what we always like to hear. So one thing I wanted to kind of get started was what kind of got you into the industry to begin with.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (00:43.886)
Um, actually, I was a born performer. So, um, you know, I was that kid at family gatherings that was always, you know, look at me, look at me and trying to do little magic shows or little dance numbers and I make my sister dress up in costumes with me and we entertain the folks while, you know, dinner was being prepared. So I, I, I had come to it naturally. And then at six years old.

my elementary school teacher put me in my first little play, like an elementary school production Christmas pageant, actually. And immediately following that, I actually got an opportunity to audition for a professional theatre in my hometown, and actually got the role. Mind you, that was a lot more due to physical...

ability than it was any performance ability because they were literally looking for a small child to play Tiny Tim and the fact that I could fit on the lead actor's shoulder and not hurt him was was a definite benefit for me. But it started a passion, you know, being in professional theater that young it just it grew and it grew and it grew and really provided some opportunities for me that I wouldn't have otherwise had.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (02:07.196)
No, that's pretty amazing that you kind of started that young and you've been able to kind of carry that passion forward. And so I know that you said that you started with theater, but I saw in your filmography that you ended up moving into stunt work. How did that go?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (02:26.698)
Well, you know, it's that kind of progression through the industry. You know, you start in theatre and theatre isn't real acting or it is the purest form of acting depending on who you're talking to. And so then there's always that other side of the fence in film and television. And so my later teens, that was where I was going because there was more money, more fame, more glamour, whatever it was. And so I actually moved out from my hometown in

rural Alberta and moved to the epicentre of film in Canada, which is Vancouver, Hollywood North, and started acting out there. So I moved out before I was even 18. I was still 17 when I when I moved to the coast and started acting. And then my agent was his office was right beside a stunt school. So there was the International Stunts

an international stunt school run by Robin Webb, who was a coordinator out in Vancouver. And so there was a whole bunch of stunt guys that were constantly training. And again, being small, I was like, well, you know, you want to toss me around? It seems like a fun idea. And so then I started training with all of these incredible, incredible stunt men, like really, really truly dedicated professionals like Nick Baric and Lars.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (03:39.38)
Hehehe

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (03:52.802)
there's a couple of other guys down there that and and they're their name there. You wouldn't know their names, but and you wouldn't necessarily know their faces because they're stunt guys, but there's a few of them who like every once in a while, they do something really cool like Nick is in the SUV in the opening credits for Deadpool when that when it's flipping around and the and the title sequence is running.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (04:18.54)
No!

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (04:19.082)
He's the guy sitting to Ryan Reynolds left that gets smoked at the beginning and you don't normally get to see stunt guys So for him to have a slow-mo close-up of him just getting smoked by Ryan Reynolds I was like Nick has made it. Yes way to go and like and some other things like that So I got to I got to work with these guys and then I got to do a couple of Really cool stunts like I got to do a six-story high fall I got to do some precision driving. I got to do

really cool martial arts one with an incredible stunt performer, Rick Feracci, who unfortunately passed away way, way too young and not from a stunt, but from a health complication. And it, you know, I got, I got all of these opportunities and they, I was just by being in the right place at the right time and having the right attitude.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (05:02.316)
Mm-hmm.

No, that's actually great that you kind of took the opportunity and you took the initiative to just kind of learn another part of the craft, which is like you said, the entire backside of the industry where it's you don't necessarily know the stunt guys, but they're the ones who are primarily on film most of the time, especially if there's a fight scene, any type of flipping, anybody jumping off a building, that's the stunt guy, it's not the actual actor.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (05:41.738)
Well, and one of the fun things was, I knew a lot of stunt coordinators in my hometown because the two main stunt coordinators when I was growing up in my early teens were former chuck wagon racers. And I knew them not as chuck wagon racers or stunt coordinators, but as my neighbors down the road. And I would go and help on the farm.

wrangled horses and stuff like that. So I had a couple of opportunities to just work in the background of film and television when I was in my late teens, like 14, 15, before I actually got out to Vancouver. And so I knew of the industry, but as you said, it was one thing to do it and then another thing to immerse into it. And I think I kind of got forced into it a little bit because as I started to get some more prominent roles, it was really hard to find a double for me because I'm five foot seven and 135 pounds. So.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (06:13.908)
Mm-hmm.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (06:38.81)
Most stunt guys are not built like me, and so they were either using stunt women or me.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (06:46.025)
No, that's really funny. So just to kind of go over your filmography, what has been your favorite, I guess, show or movie that you've been on so far?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (07:02.258)
Oh, hands down, door to door. It was, first of all, yeah, it was a phenomenal film to be in. It's a great story based on a true story, the true life story of Bill Porter, who was a door to door salesman for the Watkins Group and had cerebral palsy. So it's a really uplifting story, story of perseverance and triumph and overcoming adversity. So it's just a good through line. But I also got to work with William H. Macy.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (07:04.416)
Door to door.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (07:32.262)
and Dame Helen Murin. When Helen was nominated for a Golden Globe that year, it was our scene that they played during the ceremony. And so that was just fun. It was the first time that I ever felt like a movie star because I'm a day player through and through, right? I go up, I say my four or five lines, fill my one or two scenes and then.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (07:48.469)
Mm-hmm.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (07:55.266)
get out of there. I'm always in the trailer in the honey wagon. I've got my little four by eight cubicle that is smaller than a jail cell. And I don't do much. But on that show, I had a double wide star trailer with like a separate living area and kitchenette and then like a full bedroom to like dress in.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (08:20.725)
Wow!

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (08:21.814)
with like a shower and like everything. Like I had a couch and a lounge chair to sit on. And you always can tell the stars because they have the big puffy jacket. Well, I had the double wide trailer, the big puffy jacket, the name bar on the back of my set chair, like everything. And I'm a day player. Like if you go and you look up the scene, I'm in one scene early on, it's a diner scene. And now the nice thing is it's just me, Bill.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (08:37.452)
Hehehehe

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (08:51.674)
and Helen in the scene and then a couple of extras playing like a group of kids that I'm with but that's it like it's not a lot to it and it's like three minutes of film but I felt like a movie star and and I remember thinking this is this is why I'm doing this.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (09:12.116)
You always got to relish in those moments.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (09:17.958)
Oh yeah, you know, you gotta take it in because they don't always come. And you know, 25 years later, I'm still in the honey wagon. So, it was my one chance and I'm enjoying it.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (09:25.492)
Yeah. Yeah. Hahahaha.

So going from your acting career, you got into directing too. How did that transition happen?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (09:44.75)
Um, it just, again, it's one of those things I've necessity. Some friends, uh, wanted to put together a little project and they wanted to, uh, be a, you know, they wanted it to be their star vehicle, which it never ended up becoming, but it was definitely a fun little project to do. And they needed somebody who had a good technical understanding of, of film work, uh, but also, uh, could give, wouldn't be a tyrant on set and give them.

freedom and flexibility to explore the work the way that they wanted it done. And so I just kind of stepped behind the camera and started directing. And then most of the direction that I've done is actually moved back away from film and television and back to the first passion which was theater. And so I've helped direct a couple of stage productions and I literally this weekend just wrapped

a production that I didn't direct but I produced. I was the executive producer of an incredible musical called The Gardener written by a Juno nominated singer-songwriter, Maren Orde Burnham. And I'm trying my damnedest to get that to Broadway. So we had a small regional theatre opening here in Alberta and Canada. And I'm hoping to get it into one of the larger theatre companies by the end of the year.

And then if I have my way, we're gonna have an opening in either Toronto or Vancouver. So another Canadian debut. And then I wanna get it into Chicago and then off Broadway and hopefully onto Broadway. That's the goal and the projection and trajectory that I'd like it to go. But I don't know how it's gonna happen and I don't know what the timeline for that is. But the world needs to hear this music.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (11:40.989)
Now, I was actually going to ask you when it came to trying to go in that direction, what would be kind of the steps that you would need to kind of take to be able to at least kind of follow through on taking that musical where it needs to go.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (12:01.386)
Well, first of all, reaching into my Rolodex and phoning everybody I've ever performed with who has any connection whatsoever with Broadway. And it's not large, but it's definitely there. And so I've already started that process. And then telling everybody and anyone, because the nice thing for me is this is not something that I'm bragging about that I've done. It's not my work, so it's not a selfish pursuit.

This is something that the first time I workshopped the musical, Marin just asked me to participate, just to lend voice to one of the characters. And I'd never heard the music, I'd never read the script, and it was kind of a cold reading thing. And the second I heard the first note of the first song, I was in love. And so now, three years later, we've managed to...

I quit it up and I told her, I said, I don't care. I don't need a role in your show, Marin, but I need to be involved. And I positively, absolutely must produce this. Like if, or if anything helped you produce this, like let me get the resources so that, cause she wanted to put it up in her local community church. And I'm like, this is, this is not a community theater. Miss Marin or Burnham, this is, this is a professional production. And so we were able to find the budget.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (13:18.034)
Oh really?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (13:28.934)
to put it together and the reviews have been phenomenal by people who we've never met. I think that's the best part. And that's how I know that this is a real thing. So it's putting together that PR package. Right now I've got a really good press kit that has been formed based off of the two week run that we did and the testimonials that we took outside of the theater of people who, again, we never met, who just heard of this little show called The Gardener and left truly moved.

and inspired the way that I was the first time I heard the music. So it's it's it's doing things like this to like coming on and telling the world you need to hear this and the more PR and the more buzz I can get going for the show. Eventually, at some point, somebody who needs to hear this message will and and they'll reach out to Marin and say, hey, we'd like we'd like to help you with that.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (14:26.356)
No, that's actually really cool. Just to kind of, one, you kind of saw that the, not just the opportunity, but the potential of the play to bring it towards a much bigger audience, a much bigger stage, and then you even see even more potential to bring it forth to an even larger audience beyond that. And you're trying your best to trying to bring it towards that larger audience. And the one...

thread that I keep seeing or keep hearing every time we kind of go through your different pieces of your filmography is just seeing the opportunity, taking the opportunity and expanding upon it and not shying away from like just jumping into the pool, jumping into the project because if you don't take the opportunity then you're not going to be a part of something.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (15:20.822)
Well, and it is, it's recognizing the opportunities where they are, and by the way, they're everywhere. There's an abundance, particularly within the creative space because you get to create, and I think people forget that. I think they're waiting for these things to kind of fall from the sky or into their lap, and as a creative, you get to make the opportunities. And the...

the more you realize that, the more opportunities there are.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (15:54.716)
Exactly. I think that's a huge point when it comes to this industry is that if you feel like you want to be a part of something and you just don't necessarily see it happening, guess what? You can make it yourself and be able to bring it towards the stage or do those different things. You went from one town to another to expand your opportunities to make sure you are in the right place. It's being an author, you're able to write the books, you're able to do, you're able to create the

You want to sing, you can write your songs, you have Spotify, you have all these distribution networks now, especially with the huge push for streaming. I mean, there's so many different platforms now to be able to create, to push and do everything. One of my friends or one of the guests on the podcast kind of described the current industry as the democratization of like Hollywood as a whole, where now you have more...

The Rogue Scientist Productions (16:55.124)
gateways to entry that weren't necessarily there before.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (17:02.75)
And and the tools to make it look professional because that's the other thing too and we used to run around With like a Sony Betamax You'd still feel like no that looks like it was done on VHS, you know and And I remember When we when I did my first film it was one of the first times that I ever got to play with a digital camera and Feeling like it was a game changer because I didn't have to be conscious of how much film

burning through and being able to really play with takes and being able to colour correct in post production without it being like a massive, massive expense and thinking this is, and you know, this was 20, 25 years ago, you know, and I remember the camera being expensive to rent and justifying it because I wasn't having to burn through film and making that the, being so proud of that decision.

afterwards because we did need to use a lot of takes with the cast that we had just to try and I was a new director too. So I didn't really know I didn't have a style or a flair and understanding so I was doing a lot of experimentation in camera and behind the camera and it really really opened up the doors and And now like I look at stuff and you can you can quite literally make a movie cinemataw, you know Cinema quality film off of your cell phone

That's crazy.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (18:29.929)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, the camera technology has jumped leaps and bounds in just the last 10 years, not only in the last 20 years. And then you have everybody with basically access to editing software and professional editing software. So that way you can just edit it at home, do everything at home. I mean, DSLRs are huge in creating a certain level of quality or

even just professional content that have kind of taken over the industry right now. And we're looking into, remember when red cameras were $100,000 a camera, now you can kind of get them for even cheaper now. That's even more reasonable for the smaller video production company.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (19:20.906)
To support my book, I recorded a series of training videos and the videographer that I hired had two red cameras that we filmed on. And I remember just being like laughing for that exact reason. I was like 10 years ago, this was like a quarter million dollar shoot that I just did over eight hours and you just pulled it in like it was no big deal. Oh, it made me smile.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (19:52.244)
Well, talking about your book, let us talk about your book. What is your book about?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (19:59.554)
The Power to Speak Naked is a book that I put together because I have, you know, acting is always a passion of mine and performance has been a passion of mine for years, but it is a, it's a sidekick. You know, at this point in my life, I'm in my mid-40s and again, a professional day player, but a day player. And so I am a speaker by trade.

That's where I earn most of my money is public speaking. And I had a whole bunch of people who would ask, how do you do what you do? And I would think to myself, well, it's easy. I've been on stage since I was six years old. So this is not a difficult thing. But I also didn't really have a good understanding of why it was difficult for so many people to overcome that fear of public speaking. Because I've experienced stage fright, but I've never feared being on stage.

couple of times that I've experienced stage fright have been very distinct and very specific circumstances. So I started to, I started there, you know, what caused that? And I started to realize that most people actually aren't afraid of public speaking. They're afraid of public judgment. And when you can remove that fear of public judgment, you can unlock this world of professional speaking. And that doesn't mean like being the next Tony Robbins or Les Brown. That's...

people just going into the boardroom and being able to give a good presentation that isn't an invitation to a lobotomy, which most boardroom presentations are right now. And everybody hates them, and yet we still do them the same way. So I wanted to show people how they can tap into their own stories, how they can overcome their fear of public speaking and become really, really powerful presenters in a very, very simplistic fashion. The book is only 10 chapters. It's

barely 140 pages. According to my publisher, it's a 114 minute read. So that isn't even a two hour read. It's the kind of thing you can digest on a flight somewhere or listen to the audio book over the commute over two days kind of thing. So I really wanted to empower people to find their voice and be able to say the things that needed to be said and have the conversations that are sometimes a little bit difficult to have. And so that's how the book came about.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (21:58.848)
Mm-hmm.

Now, that's really important just kind of for anybody who's, like you said, looking to get into the industry when it comes to public speaking or understanding stage fright, because I too started out in theater really long time ago in high school, and I could have sworn that I had stage fright in years that were even. All the odd years for some reason, I could walk up on stage and

didn't have a care in the world. And then on like the even years, I would not be able to step on stage without vomiting in the back somewhere, because it's just kind of that feeling of just getting over that pressure from the crowd and getting over those kinds of things. So it's just kind of taking those steps and understanding yourself, understanding your stories and understanding that. And so, no, it's great that you were able to kind of,

use that and try to bring out the stories of others and kind of bring out your own experiences through that entire thing.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (23:24.77)
Yeah, no, and it was important to me. When my daughter was born, you know, I saw her and I wanted to, it's one of those things, right? As a creative, you wanna create the world the way that you want it to be. And I didn't ever want her voice to be silenced. And so she was a real inspiration for me. And my wife, who is an amazing and gifted and talented human and works in a very male dominated.

industry because she's a construction professional. She's a project manager for one of the largest multi-home builders in my province. In fact, the largest and she's one of the most senior officials within the organization. I've seen her struggle to find her voice, which is funny because most people are trying to elevate her and it's her own internal struggle that silences her and people are trying to give her a platform. So I wanted

I looked at my wife and I'm like, we can't continue this pattern. You need to find the strength to stand up and see how amazing you are and how important your voice is to your community. And I want to empower my daughter to always feel that she will be heard. So that was a real driver for the book.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (24:40.204)
Mm-hmm. And how long has the book been on the market?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (24:49.278)
Originally, I self-published it back in 2019, but it got picked up by a traditional publisher in 2020. And so under the Morgan James banner, it has been out for two years in bookstores and pretty much everywhere. So initially it was just me and Kindle and Amazon promoting it.

But now that Morgan James is behind it, you can go into any bookstore in, I think, over 50 countries. Still only printed in English. I'm trying to get it translated into a couple of different languages. So we'll get it translated into French first, and then I'm trying to get it into Italian and a couple of other ones. But yeah, Morgan James really got behind it. And that, again, opportunities. I was good friends.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (25:23.8)
Wow.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (25:45.154)
with a very well-known promoter in the States and she was putting on an event for Les Brown and for people who may not know, Les Brown has been living with cancer for a couple of decades now. And every once in a while, he just, he doesn't feel good. And he was doing this two and a half day workshop and on the last half day, he just, he couldn't keep going. And Gail phoned me and asked if I would step in, which was just an absolute honor and thrill.

And so I did that and as part of a, you know, sorry for not being less, I gave everybody in the crowd who had paid, I think, 10 to $15,000 to be there. And there was like 40 people there. It was a very small, intimate thing. So you know, who is this Tyler guy? I gave them all a copy of my book. Well, one of the people was my current publisher. He owns Morgan James and he flipped through the book.

ended up approaching me and saying, hey, listen, this is actually really good. Have you ever thought about publishing it through a traditional publisher? And I went, no, I didn't even think it was good enough. He's like, no, this is this is good enough. What you've got here is something that people need to read. And I'd love to be the one to help get it out. And I was just absolutely thrilled. So again, opportunities where they are saying yes, I could have very easily said no to that gig or it's too far or I have to cross a border and, you know, passports and all the rest of that. But no, I jumped on it. I was like, please, yes, let's do this thing.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (27:12.328)
That's amazing. And what so what was the feeling you got when you I'm assuming you've already seen your book in bookstore shelves. But what is the kind of feeling you got seeing your book with your name on it on a bookstore shelf?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (27:29.39)
Oh, I mean, it's the only feeling better than that is a standing ovation in front of the crowd. My my thrill is not necessarily when I see it, because I'll be honest, I I'm I don't look. But my daughter does. So it's really cool when she will be going through a bookstore and she'll run up to me and be like, Daddy, Daddy. And she calls it her book because it's dedicated to her. My book is in is in the store.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (27:34.657)
Ehhuh

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (27:57.81)
and she'll like show me, you know, the cover and I'm like, oh, that's really cool. Where is it? And then we go and one of the, one of my biggest thrills was at Christmas we were in the bookstore shopping for presents for the family. All of my nieces and nephews are very avid readers. My sister's an avid reader. My mom's an avid reader. So books are Christmas presents. And in my local bookstore under business essentials titles, we recommend was my book.

And I thought that was that that that more than anything else, I got a little teary. I'm not going to lie. That's the, you know, I don't take pictures of my book often because it's whatever it's my book, but like to see that under business essentials, I took a picture of it, tweeted it out and I did. I had a cry.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (28:27.549)
Really?

No, that's amazing. I'm currently in the process of trying to self-publish a book as well, and so I'm going through that process. But it's a great feeling of trying to walk through it and then just trying to see the enjoyment of everybody else and enjoying the story you wrote and enjoying what you produced. And you got to see that for years, where you've gone from theater, you've gone to.

film acting, directing, being a producer, being an author, and your books in 50 different countries, you've kind of taken the industry by its balls, so to speak, and just kind of rode with it. So it's, it's, it's, it's really kind of an interest, interesting and very, very strong tale of what you can do in the industry as a whole.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (29:43.434)
Well, and as you know, the joy is the journey, right? I can say this now with self-reflection, having a project having just wrapped two, three days ago, I've had, you know, there's always this buildup and then when it's done, your baby's out there and then there's nothing left to do but admire the work as it was. The process of putting it together and the creative process of...

The Rogue Scientist Productions (29:48.096)
Mm-hmm.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (30:12.226)
getting it to where it is, is really the journey. And I think, and even myself, I'm guilty of this. We don't take the time to enjoy that journey because there's this destination that we need to get to. And then when we get there, that self-reflection is lacking because we didn't take the moment to really take it in in the process. So if I could do any of my projects over again, I would try, and I say it every time.

like, no, just really enjoy this ride while we're on it. And then I get into it and I get, you know, producer hat on or author hat on or actor hat on and I'm like, no, I've got to do this thing and we've got to do it now and it's got to be perfect and I've got to study this and I've got to memorize this. We've got to get it going and where do we find the money for all of this? And then the thing is out there and I'm like, oh, that was really good.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (31:01.776)
Yeah. What would you suggest? I know that we've kind of talked a lot about a lot of the different pieces that you kind of stepped into and just kind of the importance of just kind of taking the initiative to step into a project. But what would you suggest for anybody who's trying to get into the industry?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (31:25.998)
The best time to start was yesterday and the second best time to start is today. If you're trying to get into, stop trying and just do. And if you don't know where to start, talk to a friend or somebody who knows or listen to a podcast like this with industry professionals. Find an agent. If you can't find an agent or an agent doesn't want to take you on, start your own project. It's one of the things that I've told in all of the...

training that I do for public speaking, you know, half the people are like, yeah, well, I can't get on the big stages. I'm like, yeah, because they don't know you. Like, well, how, you know, can't get a experience if I can't get a job. I'm like, but you can get a job because you can create the job, create, you know, run your own workshop, do your own thing, promote it for a little bit and get your real together and then start approaching some of these other people and don't take no for an answer because you will hear no a lot. I mean, I have an extensive resume. I, you know,

on IMDB, I think I'm over 20 credits now. And that's from a small time performer from a rural community south of Calgary where nobody's ever even heard me. You know, nobody knows my name, yet I've been in a lot of stuff. But for every one of those credits, I've probably auditioned 15 times and heard no. And the other thing is that talent has nothing to do with you booking your job. You keep, the most talented people on the planet,

The Rogue Scientist Productions (32:32.084)
Mm-hmm.

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (32:49.046)
have all been turned down for roles because they weren't the right fit. Talent is what gets you the audition. Talent is what gets you the opportunities. So just because you hear no, it's not because you're not talented. If you are getting opportunities to audition, you have talent. Trust in that, have faith in that. The right opportunities will come your way. Your job is to be prepared when they do.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (33:12.568)
And I think that is a great way to kind of come to a close with the show. I would like to thank you for being on our show today. And are there any projects coming up? Are there any social media that you would like our followers or listeners to follow you on?

Tyler Foley @seantylerfoley (33:35.178)
Well, I'll tell you what, Charles, they can find me on, you know, all of the platforms, the main ones, right? Anything that Metta touches, I touch. So you can find me there. Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn. But I would, if anybody's interested, particularly about the book, or just want to get a hold of me, if they come to Sean Tyler Foley dot com, and Sean is spelled the proper Irish way, S-E-A-N-T-Y-L-E-R-F-O-L-E-Y dot com.

and say that Tyler sent them, more specifically say that Charles sent you. I would be happy to give you a free PDF download of my book and invite you into my private Facebook group, Endless Stages, where I show people how to find these platforms to showcase their work. And we also give you free access to my mini training series, video training series, drop the mic. So all of those are my gifts.

to your listeners if they want to come do it. But before they come, I would ask that if they are listening to Rogue Scientist Productions and pursuing your passions and they really enjoy the work that you're putting out, I would ask that they give you a five-star review first. And if they could be specific on why, so that you can follow up on that content and provide more of it to your listeners, it would be a favor to me, it would be a favor to you. And as my thank you for them giving you a five-star review.

If they pop over to SeanTylerFully.com, I'll give them all the free gifts.

The Rogue Scientist Productions (35:04.02)
Thank you so much. As for me, you'll be able to find us on our website, the road scientist productions.com where you have our merchandise and links to my story on Kindle Velo the world beyond. You also have all of our road scientists, social media platforms, Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter. The best way to support us is to like our podcast on your favorite podcast platform of choice. And let us know how much you've enjoyed our show. We want to thank you, Tyler for being on

our show today and thank all of our listeners for joining us. This has been our podcast to all of those out there looking to start a new career in the arts such as acting, writing, music, comedy, and more. Always remember, pursuing your passions is a bitch, but it's worth it.