Episode 18- A Flashback with Andy Frye

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Transcript

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (00:01.509)
Thank you and welcome to Pursuing Your Passions as a Bitch. I am your host Charles Dock from the Owner of the Road Scientist Productions and the author of The World Beyond, an ongoing story in Kindle Vella. With me I have my guest host Andy Fry, the author of 90 Days in the 90s. Andy?

Andy Frye (00:20.586)
Hey, how's it going? So I get to be guest host, does that mean I have to do a monologue now?

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (00:25.441)
Of course, of everything that you've done.

Andy Frye (00:29.07)
We'll try to be better than, you know, I guess Alec Baldwin or whatever. But I'm thinking like an SNL type of thing because I grew up in the 80s on Saturday Night Live on Eddie Murphy and, you know, the cast that became a cast after that. And I don't know, just whatever you say, co-host or guest host, I think Saturday Night Live, so.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (00:50.977)
of course. It's actually been a little bit since I've seen Saturday Night Live, but at least I try to catch a couple of the clips on YouTube occasionally. So one thing I really wanted to ask, what really kind of brought you to writing this book?

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (01:09.441)
90 days in the 90s.

Andy Frye (01:10.578)
Well, I've been writing for a long time been writing Yeah, I've been writing professionally for about ten years or so mostly Sports and sports business articles did a state with the ESPN Just it was rolling stone after that I think anybody who writes and people probably who don't even write we all have ideas for a book. So for a while I had a couple ideas and you know, nothing really coherent but About a little over five. I have closer to like six years ago now

Andy Frye (01:39.782)
I was just kind of taking some time off around like spring break Easter. Was up at a friend's house in Michigan, went for a walk. And I think I had a thought that I probably had a couple of times. I was listening to some 90s playlist, 90s music playlist on Spotify and just, you know, kind of taking a walk on a nice day. And I guess I was really wrapped up in whatever I was listening to. I don't remember what songs it was, but I had a thought that I probably had before, which was like, wouldn't it be great to go back to the 90s to see

Andy Frye (02:08.458)
this artist to see this concert, to see this show that I didn't get to see or I couldn't get tickets to. And for whatever reason, I was motivated enough by those thoughts to write them down on my little note, I guess, notepad app on my phone at the time. And then kept like thinking of ideas throughout the day about what would I do if I went back to the past or where would I go? And I guess I was very variably stuck on the 1990s music scene and just pop culture seeing a lot of things. Anyway, just.

Andy Frye (02:38.066)
One thing that some writers do is that we sort of put a pin in it. Like if you have an idea and you decide that, you know, like two, three weeks on, you still care about that idea pretty passionately, then I think the best thing to do is actually kind of get to work and just start writing. Because, you know, you always hear the stories about the person who wrote the most brilliant idea in the world down at a bar napkin or, you know, Keith Richards getting drunk and passing out and then waking up.

Andy Frye (03:05.282)
to find out that he had recorded, you know, Satisfaction, I think was the story behind that song. But for me, I just, you know, I wanted to write a book for a while. I had this idea that I thought was kind of cool, and I didn't know what the heck I was gonna do with it, but June 1st, yeah, kind of after a couple weeks of letting it marinate, June 1st, 2017, I started writing, just thinking, I'm gonna write whatever I can think of. I'm gonna plot some scenes. I'm gonna, you know, maybe craft a scene where I do go back to the 1990s to see a band that I missed or a band I want to see again.

Andy Frye (03:34.678)
and where would I go and what would I do? And that's really how it grew. So it was just kind of an idea that I had that I wanted to have fun with and forced myself to write and had fun with it along the way.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (03:48.845)
No, that's amazing and that's kind of an important piece, I think, when it comes to our listeners, especially when it comes to writing ideas is if it sticks and you kind of keep thinking about it, take the time to write it down. And that's kind of a huge thing. And one thing I kind of wanted to ask is what was the overall timeframe that it kind of took you to finish from idea phase, manuscripts to publishing?

Andy Frye (04:19.51)
Yeah, I mean, it was five years on the nose. So I really literally started June 1st, 2017. And after I'd kind of done the, gone through the motions of a couple of seasons in a row of emailing a manuscript out to literary agents and going to some conferences and meeting people. And then, you know, editing my manuscript and doing it over again. Literally it was five years on the nose, June 1st of last year, 2022, that the.

Andy Frye (04:48.854)
came out in this form literally had a copy in my hand and a bunch ordered on the way. So I went through a hybrid publisher called Atmosphere Press and I could talk about that process but basically the first like I think six months to a year or six months to nine months, you're just writing anything you think is along the lines of what the story is. I think you got to be dedicated to it but you do a lot of editing so I didn't know what the heck I was doing. I'm probably just thinking like how am I going to get

Andy Frye (05:16.998)
70 to 100,000 words, which is about what a novel is. Like, where do I come up with that? How do I do that? But I kept plugging away and forced myself to do the work and then had what I thought was kind of, I guess something that would resemble manuscript. I'm not sure that it was really all that great, but after polishing it off, I took some time off, maybe like a week or two, and then would reread it. But one thing that worked for me the whole time,

Andy Frye (05:43.986)
Because I like the theme of the music and I made it take place in Chicago where I've lived since 1994 I really was like parochial to where my plot was is that I Created the space in the 1990s and these characters that I wanted to hang out with the 1990s So that every time I would plop plop myself down a chair and write for Two or three hours or edit for an hour and a half or whatever I was always I was going back to that space in the 90s with these cool people I wanted to hang out with so it wasn't as much work after the first let's say

Andy Frye (06:13.698)
you know, nine months or so when I had some things to work with and I wanted to refine it and I would think of other things and I used to do improv. I performed a little bit at Second City. I've taken classes forever. One thing that they talk about in comedy theater and improv comedy is that you make discoveries or that people give you gifts. So you could be writing about a character. You think the character is interesting. You're not really sure why or why they're in the book or what exactly.

Andy Frye (06:40.386)
their exact role in the story is in then you think, oh, this makes sense. Like, this is a personality court that could tell this subplot, which helps me out here. There's a lot of discovery that goes on, but you really gotta be active and do the work. You can't just sit there and wait for the inspiration to come and for the words to fall out of your hands onto the paper or through the keyboard. You really gotta be plugging away and then you make those discoveries and it becomes a lot easier along the way. So it's a pretty live, active process, but you gotta like what you're doing. And

Andy Frye (07:10.266)
Luckily, I like the idea from the outset and I kept going back to that place every day to just write a little bit or you know hang out with my my friends in the story.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (07:20.449)
Yeah, no, that's actually an amazing process, especially because I know that you said that you spent a couple hours writing, a couple hours editing to try and get everything done. So would you suggest for anybody who's kind of getting into writing and a lot of that end, because you said that you were kind of focused on people you'd want to hang out with at the time, and you focused on Chicago, would you suggest kind of writing what you know in terms of

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (07:49.837)
Destination point are like writing what you know in terms of like city life or anything like that Yeah, okay

Andy Frye (07:56.534)
Well, I think you need to do that. They always say that writing, your writers write what they know. So if I wanted to write, let's say, just completely opposite, I wanted to write a golf guide to the Bahamas. Well, I better get down to the Bahamas and probably work the tourism board to get some free stuff or free stays. And I probably need to know a little bit about golf. I can't really do that from Chicago where it's 47 degrees out, writing about a place with beaches and 80 degree weather and golf celebrities everywhere. So I think...

Andy Frye (08:25.77)
as much as you can. And of course, if you're like a Stephen King type writer and there's monsters and spirits and all, that's a whole different realm that I can't really play in. So I don't know where Neil Gaiman gets the ideas for his dragons and then the personalities, or people write superhero type stuff. That's a whole ball of wax, but that's different from what I do. But I guess one thing that I will say caveat to that is,

Andy Frye (08:52.77)
My novel is very music heavy. It's very 90s music heavy. So I know a lot about 90s music as it is, but there was times where, and this was fun too to do some research. Like I wanted to know, like when was Nirvana's first show in Chicago? And it didn't take me long to search the internet and to find a clip of it. The first show was at Metro. I think October 12th, I want to say it was maybe September 12th, 1991. Either way, I figured out it was like 32 days after Smells Like Teen Spirit was released as a single, which I think is just.

Andy Frye (09:21.302)
For a music person, that's kind of significant to know what their relationship is or like, and also know that the next time that they came to play was at a bigger venue or the first time that Dave Matthews, I'm not a Dave Matthews fan, but you know, they're a big 90s band. The first time they played in Chicago, I did go to see them at the Aragon Ballroom, which had gotten moved from another venue that was smaller in the spring of 95. You know, all the preppy people I went to college with were all there too, so I wasn't surprised by that. But then the next time they booked a show, it was in a stadium. So I think...

Andy Frye (09:50.826)
You know, musical stuff like that, kind of the history of music, even contemporary history, like you got to be a local in whatever you're writing. You got to, you got to do some research and also be knowledgeable. And, you know, sometimes that, you know, you're writing about haunted houses in Indiana. You got to take a trip out there to Indiana and check out some haunted houses or some, you know, dilapidated churches. Otherwise you're not really going to be able to pull it off. That's what I would say.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (10:17.763)
Yeah, and you said that you went through a hybrid publisher. What is a hybrid publisher?

Andy Frye (10:24.426)
Hybrid publishers are, and they're all different shapes and sizes and qualities, but basically a hybrid publisher is, you know, you send your manuscript to them, if it kind of fits, I guess you've got to be a quality enough writer that they think that you're worth publishing. So the typical process when you have a novel is you go shop your manuscript to literary agents, and literary agents lots of time will, you know, they'll say no thank you, no thank you, or they won't respond, or they may say, hey,

Andy Frye (10:52.93)
Sounds interesting. Give me the first five pages of your novel, which to me doesn't really help you out much. Or someone will say give me the first three chapters for 50 pages. So that's a process right there. It's like you're basically a salesperson for your own book, shopping for leads to get an agent interested enough to then take you on and then you know, you got to have a completed novel. They're not going to help you write it, but then they shop at the publishers. So I had a little bit of that, a little bit of interest, but it kind of never really went anywhere.

Andy Frye (11:22.55)
The good thing that came out of it was I would, after a couple rejections or some feedback, if I got any, I would take my novel and just sort of pare it down. I would do a lot of editing and be like, I would realize that this part was a little too wordy or I kind of going off a tangent here. So that was a good engineering process. But after a couple of years of that, and you know, like evolving my book, I kind of decided that either I'm not gonna publish this thing or...

Andy Frye (11:50.518)
I'm gonna have to go to Kinko's and like, you know, do it myself or I started hearing about hybrid publishers. Hybrid publishers basically, you know, you pay them a fee. The good ones do have copy editing and developmental editing. And then, you know, literally when your book is published the next day, you can find my book on Amazon. There's no like, maybe it's out there, maybe it's not. Like it's professionally done. So I went with one based in Austin, Texas called Atmosphere Press.

Andy Frye (12:18.026)
Strangely, like the cover designer, the guy who did my covers in Brazil, I guess he's a freelancer, but like he nailed exactly what I was looking for. The time travel mechanism, which is the train on the front of my novel, it's a little comic book-y but not too much and it stands out and just... So hybrid publishers do that sort of thing. They tend to work with independent authors. Or I've heard that Charlie Trotter, the chef, the world famous chef who's now deceased,

Andy Frye (12:46.914)
front of the cost of all of his books. So there's no shame in doing that if you don't get, get together with a traditional publisher through an agent. And then the flip side is that you own all your intellectual property. So if someone wants to make my novel into a movie, instead of giving 15% to a literary agent, and then most of the money going to Penguin or Scribner or whoever, that comes to me. I'd probably have to hire a lawyer to figure that out. But I own the intellectual property of my book.

Andy Frye (13:17.118)
And that's a nice flip side. So if you are entrepreneurial or you've been through the rounds with the traditional literary agents and publishers, and they're just kind of blowing you off, you know, and you want to see it through a hybrid publisher is a great way to go again, if you're willing to do the work and, uh, you don't mind, you know, you really believe enough in your story that you're willing to kind of market it yourself. And I think a lot of successful first time authors do their first one that way, I can't speak for like numbers or whatever, but

Andy Frye (13:45.322)
Yeah, that's what a hybrid publisher is. And it's, it's just a different angle that exists today.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (13:51.297)
No, it's actually something I didn't really know too much about at all. I've only really kind of heard the self-publishing route or the traditional publishing route and one of my recent guests that I had yesterday was talking about the difference between an indie author and what's kind of considered an author-author and why there is a difference in kind of those kind of things. So it's the first time I've kind of heard about an hybrid publisher and kind of the different processes in that.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (14:20.661)
Yeah, and I know that you kind of said... Oh, go ahead.

Andy Frye (14:21.226)
Yeah, I was going to say, it's probably worth pointing out that if you know anything about what's going on in publishing right now or books, you know that pretty much everybody is high flying and making a buzz about Colleen Hoover. Colleen Hoover self-published her first book. And I think eventually a publisher said, hey, you know that first book that you sold a ton of, we'll pay a million bucks for that, but we want to sign you for the next seven books you're going to write.

Andy Frye (14:49.75)
So yeah, Colin Hoover, I guess she was a, she lives in Texas. I don't know much about her, but I knew that she wrote a story for whatever reason it didn't go through a traditional publisher. She's helped publish it somehow. And I don't know whether she used kind of a version of a hybrid press or literally went to the printer, you know, in whatever Texas town she's in. But, you know, she's, her books are kind of targeted towards young women who and young women tend to talk a lot about the books that they like and what they're excited about. A lot more than like,

Andy Frye (15:17.162)
you know, Gen X Mendo, who listen to indie rock like I do. But yeah, I mean, she's like a rip roaring success who came out of sort of the same area that I did, I guess, with the same approach, you know. Nobody wanted her book and then she self-published it and look what happened. So that's something to think about.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (15:35.046)
Yeah, and a lot of

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (15:44.097)
Yeah, and so a lot of what kind of happens at the end of the day that I've kind of noticed is once you kind of get it through the publishing part and you're starting to get to a certain point, marketing is huge and making sure that you're in front of the correct audiences that you want to be in front of is a huge piece. Just because the publisher is willing to print it and do some marketing through their channels and along those ends, you're primarily in charge of promoting and marketing it through every other channel.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (16:14.357)
And so when it comes to her, she probably just had been to be in the right place, right time and had the right channels available to her. So yeah.

Andy Frye (16:24.822)
Well, my friend Steph Wilson, who lives in New York City, published a book that's called Big Waves and Wooden Benches. And long story short, she's a single woman who took a trip around the world, literally around the world, and then all kinds of crazy stuff happened. Now, I know that, aside from acting, Steph is a project manager, so she likes the technical stuff. If you would ask me to figure out how to get my book on Amazon myself, I'd probably rather go to the dentist. I don't...

Andy Frye (16:54.666)
I don't do that kind of stuff and I don't want to spend a day figuring it out. So for me, it was worth having a hybrid publisher and paying them and using their market apartment to do that so that on June 2nd, if you typed in the title to my novel incorrectly, it would still show, Amazon would show up. That's how I want things to happen. With Steph, you know, like she, you truly publish, she truly self-publish or not, or memoir actually. And then did some events in New York City. I did some events in Chicago.

Andy Frye (17:25.086)
I think you need to do some of those anyway. And you want to celebrate your book. You want your friends to come out and give you a rah-rah and buy you a beer and buy a copy of your book. But yeah, there's still different ways to do it. I think you get what you pay for so that if you're not the person who's going to be able to figure out how to get it on BarnesAndNevel.com, like your publisher, your hybrid publisher can do that for you. You just ask them how and they'll tell you how and then they'll just do it so you don't have to worry about it. So I think there's something to be said for that because...

Andy Frye (17:54.174)
uh... you know i'm pretty good at self promotion marketing but i don't know how to do everything and sometimes you need a little help

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (17:59.185)
Mm-hmm.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (18:01.977)
Yeah, and it's a lot to learn, is kind of one piece that I've learned because I've been in sales, I've been in inside sales beforehand, and that's one half of the promotional piece, but then the other half is marketing in general, and it's almost a completely separate beast altogether. So, how long ago did the book release?

Andy Frye (18:26.306)
So it came out June 1st of 2022, was it 2023 now? Yeah, so last summer. And yeah, had a big launch party. I did some like, you know, local farmers markets in Chicago, which actually I sold a lot through them. And I did a record fair through a Chirp radio as a local independent radio station that has all the music I like. And the minute that I heard that they were doing a record fair, I didn't know whether it was gonna get any sales out of it, but I signed up, paid 100 bucks and sold like 25 copies at like 20 bucks a piece. So that was definitely worth it.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (18:32.866)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Frye (18:56.598)
And then through that, people will hear about your book more. So definitely, yeah, if you're in New Hampshire and you write a book about, I don't know, a dog memoir or whatever it is, get out there and make sure the community knows about it and local authors and the newspaper. And yeah, I mean, in Chicago, unfortunately, we only have big papers. And then we have kind of a free arts weekly. We've got two free arts weekly and they're kind of snooty about what they review. I'm not gonna name who they are, but...

Andy Frye (19:25.278)
I didn't really get much from the mega local traditional press, but I got talking to a lot of podcasters and bloggers and giving out free copies of some of the radio people I know here and that helped out too. So yeah, however you need to do it, I think you just got to connect with people and if you're proud of your work, definitely let people know what you've done, what you published.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (19:47.781)
Exactly, and just in publishing a book by yourself, at this point you're part of the three to five percent of people that will actually write a book in their lifetime. I mean, that's huge. You've taken a huge step and you've gone further than a lot of people will end up doing in their entire lives. Are you planning on doing a second book or a third book?

Andy Frye (20:08.846)
Mm-hmm.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (20:11.085)
Yeah, OK. So where are you in the? Oh, yeah.

Andy Frye (20:12.586)
Yeah, I've got a couple. I'm kind of between.

Andy Frye (20:19.702)
Well, I heard an echo, so just ask whatever question you have, because I didn't get it.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (20:23.109)
Oh no, sorry, there's a lag on my end. Yeah.

Andy Frye (20:28.686)
Bye for now.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (20:30.497)
Yeah. So you said that you were kind of working on the second book.

Andy Frye (20:36.886)
Yeah, I've got two ideas I'm playing with. I mean, if you want to go into details, but either I'm writing a book about baseball, the first female who makes it into the majors and that is going to be a very baseball heavy book. It's not just kind of a happy, fun Disney type story. We talk about on base percentage and total bases and so all that baseball jargon in it. Working titles called a chip on both shoulders.

Andy Frye (21:04.79)
But I was also in the IT industry. I thought about all the crazy stuff that happened when I was in IT before 9-11, like all the stupid things that people don't understand technology put you through if you work at a help desk. So the other kind of lighter, I guess, of the two books I'm considering which one I'm gonna do next imminently, Help Desk, A Comedy of Errors, is a story about someone who she kind of thinks that she gets her dream job and ends up getting dispatched to the help desk.

Andy Frye (21:33.546)
dealing with the morons who don't know that they have to turn on the computer monitor along with their computer and you know all the stuff that went on in the 90s and early 2000s before everybody became an expert on social media and how to how to work gadgets and Yeah, that's um, you know, I don't know. I guess there's a little bit of memoir in that but I think the cool part about writing fiction is that You can kind of make anything happen and you can sort of selectively remember the good parts and leave out the boring part so

Andy Frye (22:02.89)
Yeah, two ideas. I'm literally between the two of them, trying to figure out which one I think is gonna make sense for me to spend the next year or two writing. But you know, I'm having fun with both ideas, so.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (22:15.081)
Yeah, and I personally love, because I like writing as well, and so I personally love going through the different ideas. I have an entire document on my doodle drive in terms of all the different ideas that I'll eventually want to write down the road. And sometimes I just kind of, what I'm working on now, I end up incorporating everything all into one piece. So it just kind of helps having that idea document on the side.

Andy Frye (22:42.518)
Yeah, I mean, as long as you're doing something. So I mean, literally this April, I have spent, I went to Austin, Texas for the first time about a week and a half ago, which is really cool. If you're hearing a jingle, my dog is right next to me, so I'm literally petting my dog as I speak to you. But I think anything that you can do, whether it's like you're developing your characters to figure out who's gonna sort of be cast in your story or you're working on a scene, like I think a lot of people think

Andy Frye (23:11.826)
I've got to have this great idea that's completely formed in my mind and then I'm going to start on page one and I'm just going to get inspired and drink lots of coffee or drink lots of red wine and work on it every day to see it through front to end. It's not like that. As you know, writing is more organic. There's times that you can get stalled on one place in your story and completely get another scene idea and you jump towards the end and maybe write the perfect ending before your book is finished.

Andy Frye (23:40.278)
Those things can happen and you just gotta embrace it, but always keep moving a little bit, doing a little bit every day, or at least a couple times a week to make sure that it's not eight months have gone by and I haven't touched my novel or my memoir. Like, you don't wanna be there if you really wanna write a book. All those little things you can do add to the process.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (23:54.84)
Mm-hmm.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (24:02.537)
Yeah, and I've actually found Kindle Vella. It's that releasing things bit by bit by bit has really kind of helped me in terms of staying on track is what I've kind of found is that you're able to release things by chapters and keep things marked. So that way it doesn't necessarily matter fully if the you did a huge readership.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (24:29.001)
As you're kind of going along you're doing it for your own purposes You're doing it to write the book and it's just kind of keeping you it's limiting you to a five thousand word Piece in that you can write five thousand words within a weekend You can write for four thousand words within a weekend to release it. There you go. You've already had That chunk and as you're kind of growing you kind of do that and that's what I've liked doing recently in terms of Releasing my story because I have the eventual

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (24:59.169)
I have the eventual idea of going back and compiling it into a novel and then re-releasing it as a full book. So that's a huge piece that's kind of just been helping me on my end, but I know other writers have other processes that kind of help them with that. So yeah.

Andy Frye (25:17.442)
Yeah, and your processes can change too. It's, again, it has to be organic and you just, it helps to like your story, like your characters, or maybe you really hate your characters and you wanna, you know, you have a perfect evil villain and you wanna see them destroyed at the end. Like, I'm sure that could be a motivating factor for that type of story too.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (25:35.649)
I know exactly, Game of Thrones, you want to kill all your characters in the most horrible ways possible.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (25:43.545)
Yeah.

Andy Frye (25:44.526)
Yeah, I mean, you best have a dragon blow fire at them and burn them in front of you, probably. If you're not going to do that at least once a chapter, you probably shouldn't write that kind of book.

the_rogue_scientist_productions-vdh9 (25:54.401)
Yeah, exactly. Well, we are kind of running out of time for the episode for right now. I definitely want to thank you for joining me on our podcast today. Are there any projects or any social media that you would like our followers to follow you on or look out for?

Andy Frye (26:16.106)
Yeah, I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Sporty Fry. My last name is F-R-Y-E. So if you follow me on Sporty Fry, either you'll get blips about 90s music and my book, 90 Days in the 90s, a rock and roll time travel story. Or my other writing gig is that I get to interview pro athletes and a lot of them are retired pro athletes. But I got to interview Tony Hawk for the second time about a week ago and just put up an article about like he's 55 and he's gonna go in the X Games again.

Andy Frye (26:45.974)
to do I guess the best trick contest. So if Tony Hawk can still skate, if you have two hands and a computer, you can definitely have the ability to write, get to it. So yeah, I mean, and sometimes I like just like to talk smack about bands or whatever on my social media too. So I don't keep it all that serious, but yeah, that's where I am. Or if you wanna check out the book, it's 90daysinthe90s.com.

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Awesome. And thank you for me. You will be able to find us on our website, the road scientist productions.com, where we have our merchandise links to and links to my story on kind of vell the world beyond. You also have all of our road scientist social media platforms, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr. The best way to support us is to like our podcast on your favorite podcast platform of choice and let us know how much you've enjoyed the show. We want to thank.

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Our guest, Andy Fry, for being on our show today and thank all of our listeners for joining us as well. This has been our podcast to all of those out there looking to start a new career in the arts, such as acting, writing, music, comedy, and more. Always remember, pursuing your passions is a bitch, but it's worth it.

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